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Unpopular opinion time:

No.

This is not ok.

If you have fucked up so badly at parenting that your kid is making posts like the above, property destruction and implied violence aren’t appropriate responses. This is not how functional adult people behave.

Hannah, in the video, doesn’t respect her father.

Given that her father invades her privacy, undermines her personal agency, and doesn’t have basic trust for her….I fully comprehend why she doesn’t. Respect is earned and taught. If Hannah posts giant, frustrated rants about her chore load, it probably implies that she doesn’t feel that her efforts are appreciated or that she’s an integral member of the family or household (alienation and over individuation is a huge problem for teens; it’s part of the formation of adult identity separate from parents and kind of a huge trap.

Teenagers are frustrated because their lives are absurd. They’re expected to have adult behavior with no adult agency. Maturity and decision making are learned skills. If parents don’t like the way their teens are behaving, they need to ask themselves where that behavior was learned. If she feels entitled, what have you been doing -her entire life- to communicate the real value of what she has and should be grateful for? If she refers to the woman who cleans for you as ‘the cleaning lady’ is that because she’s noted that you treat that woman that way? Asking for payment for work is not unreasonable; it’s an understanding of capitalism. A less asshat response than ‘are you out of your mind’ would be a basic rundown of the costs of the household in terms of food, heating, etc and what percentage of that Hannah should reasonably be responsible for. Given that she has no economic agency of her own, expressing to her that her chores are a means of repayment for that.

I grew up -poor- and my parents were still giving me an allowance by the time I was ten because that’s how you teach kids how to manage earned income. I received a dollar a week (upgraded to five dollars a week when I was 12) for completing a list of chores. If they weren’t done, I didn’t get paid. Just like you don’t get paid at a job if you don’t show up. My parents also stopped buying luxury items for me around that age and made me buy them myself with earned and saved income from my chores, babysitting, recycling cans, making crafts and selling them, whatever. My parents helped me find jobs and gave me suggestions about what I could so to earn money. If Hannah is fifteen, she cannot legally obtain most forms of employment; has she been educated as to what economic opportunities are available to her? Because as a parent EDUCATING HER IS, IN FACT, YOUR JOB. You got her an application and made her apply? Did you take her with you and teach her the process of how to obtain applications and where to look for places that are hiring? Did you make sure the place you got the application from accepts underage employees (most do not) or walk her through the application process in terms of how to make herself an attractive applicant?

‘When I was your age I’d moved out of the house, lived on my own, went to college while in highschool, worked two jobs, was a volunteer fireman’…. Uh….huh. And you didn’t manage to impart any of this work ethic on your children, apparently. Also: You grew up in a very different economy, as a man. I’m willing to bet you had parents or other helpful adults who made you aware of the opportunities available to you. You are judging your daughter for having a different outcome than you had, when she sure as shit didn’t have the same input. 

Hannah is acting out in the most trivial of ways: Ranting and commiserating with friends. and even THAT outlet is being denied her. All the people above who liked and lauded this: Would you think it was awesome if Hanna was an adult woman who’d posted a frustrated rant about her significant other, and this was the significant other’s response? Or would you consider this to be emotional abuse and a redflag for accelerating relationship violence? Because that’s what this is: Emotional abuse. This is abusive parenting (looks like it’s in the wake of/a response to earlier emotionally negligent parenting, too).

If your kid is a spoiled brat? It is not the kid’s fault. Kids aren’t born spoiled brats. Parental behavior causes this. This man is reaping the seeds he has sewn, and because he’s unsatisfied with what his efforts have yielded, he’s responding with aggression and punishment and social humiliation.

That is -fucked up-. You are a -shitty parent-. You are not training your child to be a functional adult.If you child lacks life skills, if your child does not respect you, if your child cannot think critically or understand the value of money or comprehend the importance of maintaining a household THAT IS YOUR FUCKING FAULT. This kind of extreme behavior is SERIOUSLY too little too late, and an act of aggressive desperation because YOU FUCKED UP.

If I were advising Hannah in this situation? I’d be helping her figure out ways to get the fuck away from these people and hook her up with resources that would teach her actual life skills.

Worth noting? This dude is shooting in what is clearly a residential area. That is unsound (though not necessarily criminal in his locality) behavior. This is not something to be celebrated. Property destruction and implied violence are not things to be celebrated. Emotional abuse in response to shitty teen behavior that results from bad parenting in the first place is not something to be celebrated.

This whole fucking family needs to get to family counseling STAT.

Where exactly is the emotional abuse you guys are talking about? Her dad didn’t call her any mean names. I don’t think taking your daughter’s laptop that you’ve paid for and worked on away and shooting it is emotional abuse. Maybe for the people who can’t stay off tumblr for ten fucking minutes. On that note, property destruction? I’m pretty sure that’s actually his property, seeing as he paid for it. I’m not saying he is going about it the best way, but it sounds like he has tried to get through to his daughter. Now obviously there are two sides to every story and we’ve only heard his. But it sounds like this is the only way to get through to her. Also, this is probably a southern area (lack of snow on the ground and his accent). I live in the south. It’s probably perfectly fine and legal to shoot his gun where he lives. Also, it’s straight up disrespectful to whine about your parents on facebook.

If you disagree what I have to say, unfollow me. But it pisses me off that a post like this has 7,000-something notes all siding with the girl. Did you even watch the video? I do agree that there is probably a deeper issue here and that this won’t help the problem, but I don’t think what he did is as inappropriate as everyone else on here seems to think.

He did not pay for the laptop. She bought it with her own money. It’s destruction of property.

And child abuse isn’t just about calling the child names. 

This is psychological abuse.

Violating your daughter’s privacy, and not only that, humiliating her in front of 2,892,928 people, and then destroying her personal property, that she bought and earned herself and shooting it with a fucking gun is fucking ridiculous.

Be honest, if your parents did this to you. How would you respond?

Right. Because abuse always entails calling someone mean names or physically hitting them. There’s no other way you could possibly be emotionally intimidating? You can’t think of a way? There’s a reason guns are classified as weapons.

I’d like for you to lay out to me a time that someone pulling out a gun is meant to be at all peaceful. How is it meant to be anything but intimidating and oppressive? How is intimidation and oppression not abusive, especially in a parent/child relationship? Please tell me. Like I’m two. 

And I’m gonna just sit here and pretend right along with you that you never sat with your friends and bitched about your parents pissing you off. I’m gonna act like you never said an unkind word about them, ever. I’ma sit here and pretend with you that this is the first kid, ever, to have a complaint about their parents — the first teenager in the nation (the world!) to have a negative thought, y’all!

But to address your “siding with the girl” business, ain’t nobody said she was completely right in the things she was saying or doing, but the difference here is that his daughter expressed her feelings in what she considered to be a safe space, a place where she should have been able to speak her 15-year-old mind. This man — this grown ass motherfucker — is a parent of a 15 year old, not a 15 year old himself, and instead of addressing his child as a parent, and as an adult, he addressed her in an angry and violent way, resorting to pulling out firearms to make his point.

That is not okay. That is never okay. And if this is the “only way he could get through to her”, he really needs to reevaluate the way he chose to raise her, period. No further discussion necessary.

Commentary, y’all. I really don’t see how anyone can look at a grown ass man pulling out a gun to make a point to his 15 year old daughter as anything BUT fucked up and abusive.